“we don’t know… they just are.” Could be a slogan for the whole meat industry.
Bruh, that’s just cringe. Why is people’s diet a part of the culture war?
Because the animal ag industries are some of the biggest sponsors of the republican party. Eating animal products is a great way to directly support fascism.
Made from vegetarian cows.
Add some lettuce and have yourself a double vegetarian meal!
Well, carrion would be vegan, no?
If that animal was to die of natural causes, like sickness, lightning strike, old age, heart attack, etc. it could be considered vegan
Some do consider it vegan, same as the “freegan” subset. There’s even at least one influencer who is a bit infamous for it But there’s also a few problems with this line of reasoning. It still normalizes the idea of the consumption of animal products, so it’s a slippery slope at best. It’s also not scalable, as soon as probably even a modest proportion of people would adopt such a diet, demand would quickly start to surpass supply which would incentivise the artificial production of more road kill.
And then there’s just the why? of it. Like if we’re talking about extreme situations like starvation and poverty where there is literally no other choice, okay that would make sense. But otherwise, what is so wrong with eating plants that someone would go out of their way to eat carrion instead? With the likely putrefaction involved we are talking about literal self harm to avoid eating some good ol grains and beans.
normalizes the idea of the consumption of animal products
Consumption of animal products is normal. For thousands of years.
I was talking about normalization in the sense of what psychologically feels normal to a given person in question; not about what’s popular. As vegan even the thought of eating an animal product is utterly bizarre and grotesque to me. You gotta take off those blood-tinted glasses to see clearly.
As vegan even the thought of eating an animal product is utterly bizarre and grotesque to me
Sounds like a “you” problem.
Nah, being vegan is great. It’s all the animal abusers who are the problem.
animal abusers
Who are you are talking about, sweetie? 😂
Anyone who consumes or otherwise uses animal products.
About on par with usual omni mental gymnastics.
This is known as a joke.
One of the most sinister problems is with fee-fee vegans and vegetarians, who in service of their ignorance, kill way more things to sustain their politically-motivated and fee-fee-based lifestyle.
I’m as close to vegetarian as my body will allow. I’m just calling the movement for what it is. Eat something that had a face? OMG! Flatten millions of acres, kill billions of insects, displace and kill millions of animals, farm the land with diesel equipment, ship the product in trucks 2000 miles. So vegan potato chips are on the shelves, and no worries we can wear our crocheted shoulder bags with self-assured pride!!
See the problem is the same as people who think it’s still funny to joke about abusing women. Even ignoring the offensiveness, we’ve heard it already. A million times. It’s old, really old, really uncreative. Boring.
Just like the shitty, thoroughly debunked crop deaths regurgitation. If you’re going to try debating vegans, at least take a few minutes to do some basic research, cause you have no idea how repetitive this is for us.
this doesn’t debunk every crop deaths argument. it only addresses an argument in the form “since animals die in crop harvesting, vegans shouldn’t eat crops (or they would be hypocrites”.
but the issue of crop deaths actually points to something else: people don’t care if animals die in the production of their food. vegans claim to care but will eat food covered in pesticides and harvested with threshers. the mental gymnastics they go through, like writing a four part essay about how these animal deaths are actually ok, shows that they, too, are ok with animals dying in the production of their food.
Show me where any vegan has ever argued that these deaths are okay? Your argument is both a strawman and bad faith. It’s the equivalent of when people claim anticapitalists are hypocrites because they have no choice but to participate in the existing system to survive. Cheap.
Why are vegans in particular given blame for crop deaths, when it isn’t vegans who are doing the farming? We have veganic forms of agriculture that we advocate for, and practice in the case of veganic farmers and gardeners. But until that gains more traction all anyone can do is the best they can, with what they have access to - which is far less harmful and destructive than omnis.
Why are vegans in particular given blame for crop deaths, when it isn’t vegans who are doing the farming?
and most people don’t slaughter animals. which, by the way, is one of my firmly held beliefs: we can’t blame people for something they didn’t do.
You’re paying for them to be bred and slaughtered, your hands have no less blood on them. What absurd mental gymnastics.
no, they’re not. all the people doing that are paid long before most people buy meat.
the linked four part essay excuses crop deaths
Again, please point to anywhere in the article where it says crop deaths are okay?
that’s the whole thrust of the article. only an intellectual dishonest reading could find that’s not the point.
