Lol you’re literally asking me to do your work for you.
No, if you’re interested, YOU can go and do the research, like I’ve been telling you for the last five comments.
And you can talk all you want about how I “don’t care about the truth,” no amount of posturing will change the objective fact that 7 is less than 20.
The truth is normal people waited 10 or more years, sometimes more than 20.
I mean you wouldn’t know, because you haven’t bothered to do any additional reading. I’ve already proven it to my own statisfaction, now you can do the same.
You’ve proven it to my satisfaction too! I’m using your own source, which literally says, word for word, that the wait time was 6-7 years! Nowhere have you presented any evidence it was remotely close to 20-30!
I’m not surprised that you’ve “proven it to your own satisfaction,” given that your standards of evidence are random Quora users and Russian state media you don’t even realize is Russian state media! And even they say you’re wrong! Literally the only standard you’re applying is, “What makes the USSR look bad” or “What lets me win this argument.”
I really don’t know what you’re getting out of this. You are not going to convince me that when it says, “the average wait time was 6-7 years” it actually meant 20-30. You’re not going to convince me that 6-7 is basically the same as 20-30. You’re not going to get me to do your homework for you. Your source says 6-7, not 20-30 so that’s what I’m going with. This is incredibly straightforward.
I legitimately can’t tell if you’re just trolling me or if you’re legitimately unable to understand this. Just find a schoolbus in the morning, and get on it. You need more help than I could ever provide.
Ok, I see that you’re more interested in winning an arguement than what is really true. I’ll say it one last time, In real life, the wait time for the average person to get an apartment in the USSR was more than 10 years, sometimes up to 20 or more. This is what multiple sources (including the ones I posted) actually say. If you don’t believe me go back and read them in greater detail, or even better do some additional reading of other sources that I didn’t list.
Nowhere have you presented any evidence it was remotely close to 20-30!
Because i’ts not my job to educate you. I told you what to do, now you can choose to do it.
God damn, no wonder kids are so fucking stupid nowadays. Nobody can get you people to read.
Bro, it doesn’t matter how many times you say something. What matters is what the fucking source says. It’s like you think if you just say something loudly and confidently enough, that somehow makes it true. It’s ridiculous.
This is what multiple sources (including the ones I posted) actually say.
That’s just an outright lie. I saw the source, you saw the source, I don’t know who you possibly think is going to fall for that. Nobody else is reading this far into a pointless argument in a 4 day old thread (apparently one person did, hi, upvoter) Like, literally:
Who am I going to believe? You, or my own eyes?
God damn, no wonder kids are so fucking stupid nowadays. Nobody can get you people to read.
Buddy, I understand you’re just trying to copy what I said, but you have absolutely no leg to stand on here. The screenshot is literally right there like a smoking gun. If you’re not trolling and aware that you’re spewing bullshit, you have to be the most ignorant person on the planet.
But you know what? Fine. I looked into it and here’s my source saying it’s 6-7 years.
Then apparently you didn’t read this source, which was one of the sources I gave you, where it says “In Moscow of the 1970s-1980s, for a regular schmuck in a regular clerk position, the rule of thumb was 10 years, give or take.”
Or this, also from the same source, “Large regional capitals and major cities (Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev, Riga): commonly 7–20+ years; in the biggest cities many applicants waited a decade or more.”
Or maybe this one from Russia Beyond, which is the other source I gave you, which you loved to point out says “On average, the waiting time to receive an apartment from the state in the USSR was around six to seven years.” However if you weren’t so damn lazy you would’ve read the next fucking paragraph, which says “Public sector employees (teachers, doctors) could join a waiting list compiled by the local administration, but the waiting time on these could be more than 10 years.” It’s almost like you don’t care about the actual truth.
Or maybe if you weren’t lazy you could’ve done some additional reading like I told you to like seven times, then you would’ve found this source, which literally the 5th result in a google search, and you would’ve seen this:
‘Life in a hostel is unbearable even with one child,’ Natalya Fomina, 26, a weaver at a textile factory in the Ural Mountains told the weekly Moscow News. ‘By the time I get a flat I’ll probably be an old woman.’ A 20-year wait was termed ‘the general rule.’
But you didn’t bother doing that because you didn’t do any further reading because you’re intellectually lazy and don’t give a fuck about the actual truth. So no suprise there.
Hey look, here’s another source which is literally on the front page of a google search, where it’s mentioned " I’ve been
waiting for a home for 10 years, but I can’t afford it and I don’t have a back-up." I won’t tell you which page that’s located on because I want you to find it for yourself.
In fact, since I know you’re lazy as hell and don’t actually give a fuck, here’s five other sources. But watch out, one of these sources is false! Which one is it? You’ll have to quit being lazy and actually READ them to find out.
Now quit being lazy. Go to Google.com, type in “How long did people wait for housing in the USSR,” click “Search” and read some of the god damned links. Ask yourself “Do you actually care about the truth?” Because if you are then stop lying to me about reading, and actually do the fucking reading.
Lol you’re literally asking me to do your work for you.
No, if you’re interested, YOU can go and do the research, like I’ve been telling you for the last five comments.
The truth is normal people waited 10 or more years, sometimes more than 20.
I mean you wouldn’t know, because you haven’t bothered to do any additional reading. I’ve already proven it to my own statisfaction, now you can do the same.
You’ve proven it to my satisfaction too! I’m using your own source, which literally says, word for word, that the wait time was 6-7 years! Nowhere have you presented any evidence it was remotely close to 20-30!
I’m not surprised that you’ve “proven it to your own satisfaction,” given that your standards of evidence are random Quora users and Russian state media you don’t even realize is Russian state media! And even they say you’re wrong! Literally the only standard you’re applying is, “What makes the USSR look bad” or “What lets me win this argument.”
I really don’t know what you’re getting out of this. You are not going to convince me that when it says, “the average wait time was 6-7 years” it actually meant 20-30. You’re not going to convince me that 6-7 is basically the same as 20-30. You’re not going to get me to do your homework for you. Your source says 6-7, not 20-30 so that’s what I’m going with. This is incredibly straightforward.
I legitimately can’t tell if you’re just trolling me or if you’re legitimately unable to understand this. Just find a schoolbus in the morning, and get on it. You need more help than I could ever provide.
Ok, I see that you’re more interested in winning an arguement than what is really true. I’ll say it one last time,
In real life, the wait time for the average person to get an apartment in the USSR was more than 10 years, sometimes up to 20 or more. This is what multiple sources (including the ones I posted) actually say. If you don’t believe me go back and read them in greater detail, or even better do some additional reading of other sources that I didn’t list.
Because i’ts not my job to educate you. I told you what to do, now you can choose to do it.
God damn, no wonder kids are so fucking stupid nowadays. Nobody can get you people to read.
Bro, it doesn’t matter how many times you say something. What matters is what the fucking source says. It’s like you think if you just say something loudly and confidently enough, that somehow makes it true. It’s ridiculous.
That’s just an outright lie. I saw the source, you saw the source, I don’t know who you possibly think is going to fall for that.
Nobody else is reading this far into a pointless argument in a 4 day old thread(apparently one person did, hi, upvoter) Like, literally:Who am I going to believe? You, or my own eyes?
Buddy, I understand you’re just trying to copy what I said, but you have absolutely no leg to stand on here. The screenshot is literally right there like a smoking gun. If you’re not trolling and aware that you’re spewing bullshit, you have to be the most ignorant person on the planet.
But you know what? Fine. I looked into it and here’s my source saying it’s 6-7 years.
Bro, what is the one thing I asked you to do, in my last 15 comments?
Your homework.
I asked you to read additional sources besides the ones I provided for you. Did you do that?
Yes, actually, I did. I remain convinced that your source is correct and that it was 6-7, not 20-30.
Then apparently you didn’t read this source, which was one of the sources I gave you, where it says “In Moscow of the 1970s-1980s, for a regular schmuck in a regular clerk position, the rule of thumb was 10 years, give or take.”
Or this, also from the same source, “Large regional capitals and major cities (Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev, Riga): commonly 7–20+ years; in the biggest cities many applicants waited a decade or more.”
Or maybe this one from Russia Beyond, which is the other source I gave you, which you loved to point out says “On average, the waiting time to receive an apartment from the state in the USSR was around six to seven years.” However if you weren’t so damn lazy you would’ve read the next fucking paragraph, which says “Public sector employees (teachers, doctors) could join a waiting list compiled by the local administration, but the waiting time on these could be more than 10 years.” It’s almost like you don’t care about the actual truth.
Or maybe if you weren’t lazy you could’ve done some additional reading like I told you to like seven times, then you would’ve found this source, which literally the 5th result in a google search, and you would’ve seen this:
But you didn’t bother doing that because you didn’t do any further reading because you’re intellectually lazy and don’t give a fuck about the actual truth. So no suprise there.
Hey look, here’s another source which is literally on the front page of a google search, where it’s mentioned " I’ve been waiting for a home for 10 years, but I can’t afford it and I don’t have a back-up." I won’t tell you which page that’s located on because I want you to find it for yourself.
In fact, since I know you’re lazy as hell and don’t actually give a fuck, here’s five other sources. But watch out, one of these sources is false! Which one is it? You’ll have to quit being lazy and actually READ them to find out.
Here
Here
Here
Here
and Here
Now quit being lazy. Go to Google.com, type in “How long did people wait for housing in the USSR,” click “Search” and read some of the god damned links. Ask yourself “Do you actually care about the truth?” Because if you are then stop lying to me about reading, and actually do the fucking reading.
Jesus fucking wept.