A bit much IMO. I get why both things happened on a “the country deserved it” level but innocent people suffered the most in both cases. It’s shooting up a Walmart because you hate the corporation.
Fuck the USA but the people in the towers weren’t the ones dropping bombs. Fuck Israel but the festival attendees didn’t deserve to die
And before anyone says “they were guilty of complicity,” if that’s true then why would I celebrate the actions of those who caused direct harm *which then led to a fuckton of more harm to the people they did it in “support” of?
And to be clear, I’m not going to demonize either group of attackers. It’s understandable that a victim would lash out like that. But I sure as hell don’t “LOVE” either event.
The World Trade Center was filled with some of the richest capitalists in the USA. Bank CEO galore. It was like a thousand Luigi Mangiones all at once.
Certainly janitors and other unrelated people were also hit but the Twin Towers wasn’t a random ghetto apartment building. It was home base of capitalist imperialism.
Didn’t say it was a ghetto. They were office buildings for over 400 companies different companies. And what percentage of a company is CEOs? The majority of the people who died were Joe Schmoes.
Damage isn’t isolated to to just the people who died. Their family and friends suffered, surrounding buildings gone, unrelated businesses closed. The entire city was in shambles for years.
My friend’s dad was NYFD. But I guess I should celebrate because some of the people who died were bankers, huh?
Yeah there were also real estate companies. And insurance companies. And consultancy firms… And the stock exchange… Oh no all these great awesome companies!..
My friend’s dad was NYFD. But I guess I should celebrate because some of the people who died were bankers, huh?
Thank you for inserting yourself into the story but here’s the thing I don’t care.
I agree with you 90% of the time but this is ignorant as hell, man. You’re either being deliberately obtuse or you really have no idea how a business works. Not sure which is worse.
Innocent people died and you’re out here comparing percentages. What the fuck is that about? What’s the ratio of guilty-to-innocent you find acceptable since you clearly have a number in mind?
And back to your Luigi comment, he wouldn’t be getting any praise if he bombed the whole building.
Shit like this is why the media has such an easy time conflating anti-zionism with evil. “They celebrated when the towers fell” was the rallying call to the ignorant to support our oil colonialism and you’re just proving them right
Thank you for inserting yourself into the story but here’s the thing I don’t care.
Please fuck ALL the way off with this. You’re cheering for the death of someone I knew whose badge is still framed in his son’s room.
I don’t think you fully understand what the WTC was and how much the US exploits other countries by means of puppet regimes, resource theft, and overthrowing their governments and massacring their civilians if they ever resist.
And the WTC was a building at a head of those activities. WTC was basically “Evil Inc”.
And back to your Luigi comment, he wouldn’t be getting any praise if he bombed the whole building.
Really? If he blew up the United Healthcare building you think people would be big sad? Luigi did great by limiting collateral to the head responsible but there’s quite a few other complicit people in that chain of command. United Healthcare is still killing many innocent civilians every single day right now.
Hell, the actual responsible for United Healthcare are the stakeholders at the head of their boards which push the policies of exploitation. Guess where those types of people reside?
Innocent people died and you’re out here comparing percentages.
9/11 didn’t target the fire station. Firefighters were sent by the elites to risk their lives for other elites in the WTC after impact already happened. Look at how the US government fought every healthcare claim afterwards. Mamdani recently unveiled how NYC lied for years about toxicity at Ground Zero. Many firefighters also died in the aftermath simply because of poor healthcare. They sent in those firefighters to die for the elites as cannon fodder.
Also this is Twitter. Edgy hyperboles are kind of the point. In case you don’t get it, it refers to Netanyahu compares Oct. 7 attacks to ‘sixteen 9/11s’
I don’t think you fully understand that tons of innocent people died. It doesn’t matter what the building represented when tons of innocent people died.
Really? If he blew up the United Healthcare building you think people would be big sad?
A deliberate twisting of my words. But Luigi Mangione would NOT be the folk hero he is if he bombed a whole building, no.
Assuming it was the most morally-justifiable attack possible on a city center in all of history, what’s the number (or percentage) of victims you’re comfortable killing as collateral damage?
My answer is the same as to the question “how many non-IDF Israelis was the Palestinian resistance allowed to kill on October 7”?
I recommend this video to better understand what we are talking about https://youtu.be/1Zb6fZCqdrQ
Fuck Israel but the festival attendees didn’t deserve to die
Having a festival right next to an open concentration camp will have them rightfully die. Very deserved.
but innocent people suffered the most in both cases.
9/11 wasn’t even remotely a blip in comparison to what your country has done to the global south for decades and then decades thereafter. A few thousand money men compared to millions of innocent people killed to maintain the system that the money men themselves work for.
Whataboutism. “Your country has done worse” is not a good excuse for killing thousands of innocent people, sorry. That sort of logic sounds pretty damn familiar, too
A few thousand money men
So when my shitty country bombs a major city, they’re all innocent. But when my shitty country gets bombed, every person deserved it. GOT IT.
Whataboutism.
meaningless term
“Your country has done worse” is not a good excuse for killing thousands of innocent people, sorry.
“has done worse” is seriously underselling just how much devastation your country has done to others. If your country experiences 1 billionth of the pain yours dishes out daily and you act like the entire world has to cry for it then it’s a skill issue.
It’s not on those defending themselves to care about the attacker’s consequences. Maybe if you didn’t let genocide, wars, collective punishment and exploitation become a bipartisan issue, things might have been better.
So when my shitty country bombs a major city, they’re all innocent. But when my shitty country gets bombed, every person deserved it. GOT IT.
What’s the framing on this? Do you think Amerika had a right to bomb other countries?
I can only assume you’re deliberately missing both of my points, yeah? I never said the attacks weren’t justified, I’m saying it’s wild to LOVE that they happened.
I don’t give a shit about “my country” as an entity. I have never supported any war we’ve been involved in. I’m not even going to rephrase it - you’d have to go out of your way to misinterpret what I wrote.
What’s the framing on this? Do you think Amerika had a right to bomb other countries?
Insane question to ask in response to me saying my country is shitty. Again I’m not gonna defend a point I never made.
Here’s a other “meaningless term” for you: sealioning
I’ll ask you the same thing I asked OP: how many innocent people are you willing to kill to get one bully?
