Cross-posted from: https://feddit.de/post/10013170

The war in Ukraine is “existential for our Europe and for France”, Mr Macron said in the interview on France 2 and TF1.

“Do you think that the Poles, the Lithuanians, the Estonians, the Romanians and the Bulgarians could remain at peace for a second [in the event of a Russian victory in Ukraine]?” he asked. “If Russia wins this war, Europe’s credibility would be reduced to zero.”

  • nivenkos@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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    2 years ago

    And peace would put an end to that.

    I don’t get the idea of doggedly pursuing liberation of the Crimea, etc. when it isn’t realistic and people are losing their lives.

    It’s better to have an okay-ish peace now and reorganise the country than to face total collapse if shortages continue.

    Perfection is the enemy of the good.

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      2 years ago

      Dude I’m talking about ceceding kharkiv and Odessa to Russia which is what you are saying is a reasonable solution

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        2 years ago

        Have you ever considered that Ukraine is just an investment for the West? They’d rather have Ukrainians dying than their own soldiers. They don’t actually think Ukraine can win, only weaken Russia.

        This is what all Western military strategists are saying.

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          2 years ago

          Considering the crippling wheat and other exports Ukraine provides for the west, yeah, there’s a lot of reasons to invest into Ukrainian victory and survival. I’m not niave to believe the US cares about Ukrainian lives.