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  • You can’t point to Sweden or Finland because the rest of Europe is doing much better - by giving people proper psychological help, committing them when needed, and jailing them otherwise.

    My argument is for committing these people to asylums and getting all of America the proper psychological and medical help they need, which puts people in these positions.

    My position has never been “oh we can’t help them all so why even try”…that’s your misconception. And it’s your own fault you don’t understand the argument.


  • The ol’ we can’t save everyone so why save anyone argument

    It’s obvious reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. You must have missed the point where I said housing should first go to people without these deficits. You know…like 6 posts ago…

    You’ve sat there and put words in my mouth, made strawman arguments, ad hominem attacks against me…

    Do you know how to debate a point at all? Because you’re failing at every step of the way…


  • Then it’s clear you’re not actually reading any of the conversation here. Maybe go back and read the topic at hand, come back when you’ve got a good grasp on it.

    This topic isn’t about housing, it’s about housing specifically for the maladapted, psychotic, drug addicts, etc. Many here are arguing that giving them a house would make them ALL BETTER and turn them into functioning, productive members of society…


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    What are you talking about? This is a post about the homeless littering the streets, not any of the bullshit you espouse here. And I’m not arguing for any of the shit you listed either. So your entire argument is a strawman, full stop.

    I don’t gotta take ANY time because you’re all off in left field talking about something else OTHER than the conversation we’re having ENTIRELY.

    You’ve lost sight of what this conversation was about, and have gone off on some wild-ass rant about all the other things you’re mad about. Maybe go back about 4-6 posts and RE-READ, with an attention to understanding what we’re talking about instead of reading with the intention of rebuttal and then rejoin the conversation. I get that you’re mad about what’s happening to the world right now, we all are. We don’t need to be giving “homeless” (read: Drug Addicts, Severely Mentally ill, People who are mal-adapted to society) housing. We need to be getting them medical care, locking them up in asylums to keep them out of the general population without treating them like criminals (though many of them are), and getting them psychological help.

    You’ve all missed the forest for the trees here, and it’s sad because you only argue it because Musk said something and you HAVE to disagree with it. Doesn’t matter what it is, you MUST, because instead of looking at what he’s saying, all you care about is making sure that you disagree with him. You can disagree with him as a person, and he can still be right occasionally (a broken clock is right twice a day). In this case, he’s right. But your solution (giving them housing) is short-sighted, immature, naive and has had no long-term thought put into it at all.

    Go live in a place with a homeless population. Go try and help them. Many aren’t capable of being helped. And the only people who think like you do, are people who haven’t experienced it.




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    How does telling you the truth about the homeless population benefit me in any way, shape, or form?

    You haven’t passed the bar to call me “selfish”. Sure, I might be an asshole, but this isn’t one of those times either. The reality is that we can’t help everyone, and some people aren’t saveable. You can’t point to Sweden or Finland as answers either, because they have the highest per-capita drug deaths of other euro nations.