• dantheclamman@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Mozilla is a bizarre Matryoshka doll with a for profit company inside of the nonprofit. If anything, I believe this structure is responsible for Mozilla’s problems

      • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        9 months ago

        So the profit from the for-profit is passed up to the non-profit.

        This is a really common organisational structure and not bizarre.

        There’s loads of worthy criticisms to make of mozilla but this is not one of them.

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          9 months ago

          Sure, whereupon the CEO alone can receive an 8 figure compensation package. That is not at all an issue to the viability of a non-profit.

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            9 months ago

            It’s not as simple as just deciding to hire people at lower rates of pay.

            Cost cutting is a tricky game. When an organisation is not on a positive trajectory, cost cutting has a very high risk of re-enforcing the underlying problems.

            That’s not to say cost cutting isn’t a worthy objective, but it needs to be carefully considered.

            If you want a CEO with the right skills and connections you need to pay.

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              9 months ago

              But they have a strong history of paying a lot for CEOs that don’t have the right skills and connections. It’s not just this one, it’s a systemic issue for them.

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                9 months ago

                On one hand you’re correct in that their CEOs haven’t been able to turn the situation around.

                On the other hand it’s hubris to suggest that you know better than whoever is doing the hiring.

    • JonsJava@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Non-profit isn’t the same as not-for-profit

      Take American Red Cross

      They make bank on blood donations. Also, they take in way more than they put out.

      • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        9 months ago

        This smells like BS.

        Is mozilla non-profit, not-for-profit, or for-profit?

        You dont really know do you.

        “I dont like mozilla so ill just assume they must be profiteering assholes somehow”

        “Its the vibe of the thing”

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          9 months ago

          I only use Firefox. I’ve only used Firefox since 2000.

          They, by their own statements, are a 501( C )3, which is a non-profit, not a not-for-profit.

          Sit down.

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            9 months ago

            You seem to be able to google “mozilla non profit” but unable to elucidate whether it is in fact a non-profit and why that is so.

            Again, you’re offering hand wavy vibe based explanations as to why mozilla is “bad”. What exactly is the problem?

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              9 months ago

              I have worked for non-profits.

              They are completely allowed to make a profit.

              You are mistakenly under the impression that I’m against Mozilla.

              If you go back to my original comment, I merely explained what I explained here. Mozilla is a non-profit, not a not-for-profit.

              You decided to take that as an attack on Mozilla, for some strange reason, and attacked me. I just turned that same energy back on you.

              Did I ever attack Mozilla? Did you attack me?