• TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    Yeah but how tf do you buy things with monero? 😭

    I spent an afternoon trying to work it out once, and it’s not exactly intuitive, and it seems like the people who convert from normal money into crypto still hold all the strings :/

    • shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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      2 days ago

      Buying a product is actually rather easy. You’re just presented with an address and an amount and you can copy and paste that address and amount into your wallet and click send. You are also presented with a QR code where you can scan it and a lot of websites even present a open with wallet button that you click and it will auto fill in the address and amount necessary.

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        2 days ago

        You’re ignoring the fact that you have to:

        • get a wallet
        • make sure your wallet is secure
        • fund the wallet from a trusted source
        • back up your wallet

        Crypto is many things, but it isn’t exactly as friendly as a credit card provided by your bank. Or PayPal, for that matter.

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          1 day ago

          It may not be quite as friendly, but PayPal or your bank can also freeze your account at any time and nobody can freeze your Monero address at any time for any reason.

          So you can pick sovereignty or convenience. With Monero you have full sovereignty, but with the banking system you have a lot more convenience.

        • Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1 day ago

          Been a sec I used XMR, but getting a secure wallet was simply built into the desktop gui wallet (which is the default recommended option on getmonero.org). While getting that wallet it also tells you to backup the seed phase (preferably by printing it iirc). It has a simple mode especially for non-tech users.

          So installing the GUI wallet takes care of 3/4 points, then to fund it you just find any reputable crypto exchange that supports sending Monero in your region (I used kraken before in the eu). By design in Monero the platform (which does have to do KYC probably) doesn’t know anything about where they sent the money. Transactions are not traceable in Monero.

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            9 hours ago

            then to fund it you just find any reputable crypto exchange that supports sending Monero in your region (I used kraken before in the eu). By design in Monero the platform (which does have to do KYC probably) doesn’t know anything about where they sent the money. Transactions are not traceable in Monero.

            so why should anyone have any faith in a crypto exchange not doing the exact same shit as paypal? if they know their customers and if they can plainly see that one of their customers accepts monero for something they don’t like, they don’t have to prove that any money has gone to them, they could simply lock them out of any future exchanges just by way of pointing out that they advertise a monero address (or whatever) even if they can’t link it back to them

            • Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              7 hours ago

              That’s why you move the XMR to your wallet first, and do not send it directly. The crypto exchange doesn’t know anything about where you’re sending the money if you do that.

              They can’t see anything about Monero by design. There’s a leaked cia/fbi/? presentation out there of them working to trace Monero for a single purchase, on an older version of the protocol.

      • Noxy@pawb.social
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        2 days ago

        your wallet

        what if I don’t have a “wallet”? the fuck is a wallet in this context anyways?

        • shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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          1 day ago

          A wallet is nothing more than a piece of software that understands the Monero network and the way it works and allows you to store Monero. Look at getmonero.org for a list of recommended wallets.