• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    2 months ago

    I stand behind Leo’s message 100%,

    but you have to admit it is kind of funny that the original gaslighter organization which uses positive reinforcement to brainwash people into worshiping a deity of their own creation is trying to stop tech companies from doing the exact same thing, lol.

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          Certainly they have not at all stopped misinforming people. There are also still elements that promote hatred.

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          it was built on a weak foundation of lies for a people who are scared to die. But really who isn’t… I remember hearing catholics say “those christians over there are not real christians” …Then I proceeded to think neither of you two are christians but a lost people displaced by war, exploited by capitalist and no real memory of your past. Bondage is all they know. Without a scientific mind you just make shit up and in the hiearchy the poor pay more.

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            “who are scared to die”

            if catholics are afraid to die, then all of you are defecating your pantaloons this instant

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            2 months ago

            Opus by Gareth Gore

            ps I think book reviews are stupid but a review of a machine is not. Yes please tell me how to think… Don’t challenge my stupid ideas. I love my hug box…

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          Certainly not one that has been around for centuries and has seen many different world views over the years!

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      We in the USA have a issue with secular and non secular idol worship… The pope is a CEO… Kinda like his own little corpo kingdom… kinda like these billionaire welfare queen pdfile anarcho capitalist libertarian tech ceos…and it seems like both parties can’t keep their hands off the kids. Like musky boy is trying to create or already created. These catholic clergy are just grifters and fraudsters. It is sad to watch the elderly spiral into madness and these vampires love taking advantage of the weak while posing as “the good guy”… the world is a inversion of what people actually believe. It is hard to keep your head on straight with such a heavy knowledge base. I looked into the abyss and it spit in my eye.

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      2 months ago

      As much as I hate the organization, I want to forgive the people who run it. I want to believe they do it cuz they’re brainwashed too.

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      2 months ago

      me when I know absolutely nothing about the Church and I watched a single netflix documentary

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        2 months ago

        Pretty sure that documentary would be the more consistent and factually based religious piece of media out there.

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        2 months ago

        I was raised Catholic, actually. Went to bible camp every summer, sang in the choir. The book is fantasy fiction and the preacher’s livelihood depends on convincing people that all good things come from god and all bad things come from humanity.

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              Jesus Christ literally said he is the Son of Man and assigned Pope Peter as the “rock” of his church

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                Jesus Christ

                Again, there is no such thing as a christ, magic isn’t real.

                literally said he is the Son of Man

                Isn’t everyone?

                and assigned Pope Peter as the “rock” of his church

                And what does that mean? One of these four interpretations? https://www.gotquestions.org/upon-this-rock.html

                Or something else entirely? Let’s ask Jesus. Oh right… he died.

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                  1. There is, stop strawmanning it to “magic”

                  2. The Son of Man as in the Messiah. Matthew 26:64 Jesus said to him: “You have said it. Yet truly I say to you, hereafter you shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of the power of God, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

                  3. Jesus told him to “feed my sheep”.

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                    There is, stop strawmanning it to “magic”

                    Can god make something out of nothing? That is magic. Can god reverse death? That is magic.

                    What’s up with the blood sacrifices and rituals? Totally-not-magic?

                    The Son of Man as in the Messiah. Matthew 26:64 Jesus said to him: “You have said it. Yet truly I say to you, hereafter you shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of the power of God, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

                    Messiah meaning savior? To save us from the punishments god created for us?

                    Jesus told him to “feed my sheep”.

                    Jesus was kind of a dick like that, yeah. If we believe the gospels.

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          Please read the Bible further.

          May I have some of the verses you read that made you think that?

          and no it does not, not at all

          Most religious orders (the way that most people become priests or brothers) do not have you earn your own money, you live in formation houses or active communities with priests and brothers

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            That’s the point of the garden of Eden story. God made everything and everyone, but we broke his impossible rules and now he punishes us forever, to the point that infants are born with sin.

            It’s a death cult.

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              translations depend on literalness and the way its said

              for example

              the difference between

              “I ate a bunch of fruit today”

              and

              “A bunch of fruit was consumed by me today”

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                Yeah but then you say a bunch of racist authoritarian shit and try to shrug it off as sarcasm when the crowd turns against you. You’re not allowed to decide you were joking after the fact.

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                    2 months ago

                    I said if you stand against marking things with /s then you’re promoting the ability say horrible shit without consequences. No matter how outlandish, how stupid, how absurd you think a statement is: that is somebody’s real opinion.