• Martti@suppo.fi
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    If so, avoid it. Idc about german case, there is some other languages that likely use it as a slur, but the main source of it is america. You see, in Estonia, ‘neeger’ used to mean any black guy, without being racial slur. But recently it was considered slur, because teenagers influenced by american culture started using it as a slur, eventually leading to its ban. And I dont mind , it just now i have to unnaturally replace it with two much longer words. And I see this as a useless adoption, the less words have offensive meaning, the better.

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        It is fun how you think someone has to lead you somewhere. And also just take time and read my further explanation. If you can argue with the fact that we dont need racial slurs to exist, then Im very interested.

        I even added it into original comment, so less people would misunderstand my words :/

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      "We previously had a casual, low-key racism that no one minded! Everyone was perfectly fine with that arrangement. Until the youths stumbled into a way to get attention by making it more racist! I didn’t want it to be more racist, it was the right amount of racist before! And as I said, everyone was fine with it!

      Anyway regardless I’ll still call them neegers. Those Americans with their influence can’t take that from me."

      Just an unbelievably trash hill to stake your vomit-tier flag on, but sure, go off.


      Here’s a question, why are all the “I’m Estonian!” announcers I ever stumble into, always just simultaneously, proactively finding the worst possible takes to give, upon their own introduction/announcement? The fuck is up with that “type” of y’all?

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        We previously had a casual, low-key racism that no one minded

        A certified USian braindead take, from a typical USian thinking their view of the world is the only possible one. As the commenter above has said, words derived from ‘negro’ just mean black people around the world. If you’re so dense as to think any word meaning ‘black’ is racist, then you must stop using ‘black’ altogether, and also euphemisms like ‘dark’ too. And stop using ‘white’ since it’s contrasted with ‘black’.

        But who am I kidding? USians do actually think everyone must do exactly that, by eliminating words like ‘blacklist’ and ‘whitelist’. Next, they’ll insist that ‘black metal’ and ‘Black plague’ are racist, and that darkness must stop being associated with death and evil spirits, and that being afraid of darkness is racist.

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          Are you completely braindead?

          Yes it comes from the european word you mentioned which just meant all blacks, WHICH WAS USED AS A SLUR AT THE TIME!

          Thats exactly the point, it is a word from a time where people where just openly racist AF and a black skin color was sinonimous with “deserves to be enslaved, subhuman, animal” BECAUSE EUROPEANS AT THE TIME THOUGHT THAT ABOUT ALL BLACK PEOPLE!!

          SO THE WORD MEANS BOTH: “ALL BLACKS” AND “SUBHUMAN PIECE OF SHIT”

          THAT’S EXACTLY WHY DECENT PEOPLE DONT USE IT!!!

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            Remarkable, you claim to be German, which a 1/1024th of you might perhaps be, but you behave like a typical USian cunt, whose unbounded ignorance and unwillingness to learn are only matched by the infinite arrogance and sense of entitlement. You’re ready to peddle USian talking points of them feeling a bit bad about the racism and therefore getting to do cultural imperialism and tell the entire world how to live their lives, while pretending to be good and moral persons themselves. But I don’t want you to live with this delusion, and I want you to know that you’re on the side of evil cunts. In your recent comments you even got so high on sniffing your horse’s farts that you not only have shown that you don’t get the basic use-mention distinction, but were openly chastising others about your own stupidity! You’re the kind of jackass that would gladly edit Mark Twain’s novels a century after his death.

            One day, when the US is no longer a global empire, everyone will know exactly why the whole world hates USians. You will likely die before that, seeing as how you write like a suburban Facebook Karen — but your children will know full well that you gargled USian balls. They will put your photos away into a box in the farthest corner, and will vow to never be like you.

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              Yeah sure you think the US is the reference for all of us, you dont even bother looking that my instance ending which is .de, you claim there are is not even a fraction of a percent not living in the US without any evidence, you falsely claim terms are from US which aren’t and you just fire only bad faith discussion and slurs, defending the use of words which are racial slurs nearly everywhere on the world because you obviously know nothing of history and colonialism yet you think the I am the ignorant one.

              I really hope you are a troll or a minor, otherwise I would have to feel bad for someone so confidential wrong, as you just have to had no education and never read a book.

              P.S: if you are not a troll and willing to learn, maybe read some spivak (can the subaltern speak) or Gramci (prison notebooks)

              Then you maybe get of your high horse and see why people like me are trying to change hegemonial culture instead of boot licking like you

              Or st least open Wikipedia once, and you will see the word was used to discriminate in the 16 hundreds while the US was founded in the 17. Hundreds.

              The Information is no secret, you just choose to ignore it

              German wiki, but I am sure your native language is available as well https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neger

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          USian, yes, but I’m saying something more subtle than you realize. Obviously I understand basic root words for what they are, and no I’m not the kind of silly liberal that imbues words with unrealistic magical power. For instance I always thought trying to force people to use “latinx” in place of “latina/latino” was stupid, culturally insensitive, and honestly pretty patronizingly racist.

          I’m not what you’re imagining, and I do detest that tendency.