• Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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    10 hours ago

    I’ve said it on this platform before: I will build furniture in inches until my hands can’t hold a chisel anymore. The inch system arose around the needs of carpentry and woodworking, it works in base 12, which is outright superior to base 10, especially when you divide by 3 and 4 more often than by 5.

    Also, the closest tape measure I have to hand is my 5m metric tape. I build things in metric, just…not furniture.

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      5 hours ago

      A dozenal metric system would work as well as the decimal metric system, as long as everything else was base-12:

      in base 12 in base 10
      1m’m = 10⁻³m = 0.001m 1m’m = 12⁻³m = 1/1728m
      1c’m = 10⁻²m = 0.01m 1c’m = 12⁻²m = 1/144m
      1m = 1m 1m = 1m
      1k’m = 10³m = 1000m 1k’m = 12³m = 1728m

      Since we’re at this might as well say the day has 10₁₂k’s = 20736₁₀s. Each k’s is exactly two of our current hours, and each “new second” is roughly two four of our current seconds. Enough of this Sumerian mixed base already!

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      9 hours ago

      Wow, base 12, I never thought of thas! You halve it, quarter it, and third it, and still end up with clean integers.

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        9 hours ago

        Yeah; you’ll often find boards in America milled to 3/4" or 1 1/2". Those are 1/16th or 1/8th of a foot. A lot of boards used in furniture are 3/4" thick. Half of 3/4 is 3/8, a third of 3/4 is 1/4. It solves the problems we need to solve, and the metric woodworkers start sounding how teaspoon/cup/quart cooks do.

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      What do you do when a piece you’re cutting isnt exactly a foot, say, 11 or 13 inches? I know nothing about woodworking, but I’m assuming there isnt a unified standard to make everything match to the nearest whole foot, so then this whole base 12 thing goes out the window, or am I missing something here?

  • carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works
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    15 hours ago

    And yet the cowards refuse to use megagrams. If SI prefixes are so great use them consistently rather than stealing other unit names and giving them another definition.

    Also metric byte sizes deserve the fires of hell. Powers of 2 or get out.

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      15 hours ago

      Ah yes, I need a hard drive containing 4 times 2 to the power of 40 bytes

      • statements dreamt up by the utterly deranged
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      We don’t use mega grams because kilo is the SI unit. And there’s no such thing as metric byte. That’s the sales department finding out that 104 MB is a larger number than 100 MiB.

  • ☭SaltyIcetea☭ @lemmy.ml
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    one thing i enjoy way more than i should is use units that are technically correct, but no one uses them like ever.

    like megagrams instead of metric tonnes.

    or 1 dekameter instead of 10 meters.

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      7 hours ago

      I only use metric when it’s in forms nobody else uses or recognizes at a glance because I need to be difficult. Decimeter is perfect for like, height of a person, for example. Why do they use CM?

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        Why do they use CM?

        Precision. “17dm” can be anything between 16.5dm or 17.5dm.

        You could of course say “I’m 17.5dm tall”, but at this point “I’m 175cm tall” is shorter (no dot).

        That said I’ve seen plenty people measuring height in metres and then centimetres. Usually something like “I’m one [metre] and 75 [centimetres] tall”.

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      16 hours ago

      I measure battery capacity and electricity consumption in J/kJ/MJ, as intended. None of that kWh bullshit.

      It also makes for fun comparison with energy value of foods.

      Energy is energy, after all.

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    18 hours ago

    We all know it’s a much better system. Reagan killed our attempt at switching. No one has tried since.

    Personally, I use metric for 3D printing, and I use imperial for wood working. Until standardized material sizes change, it doesn’t make sense to use metric for wood working. That change needs to come from the top, from government regulation.

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    1 day ago

    Do americans actually do math with imperial system at school? That must be a nightmare and have conversion errors between units.

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    1 day ago

    It’s obvious that there’s 1760 yards in a mile.

    There’s 22 yards in a chain, which we can all remember because of the 22 yard line in rugby.

    There are 10 chains in a furlong, which fans of metric can’t complain about.

    There are 8 furlongs in a mile, just like there are 8 pints in a gallon.

    And 22x10x8 = 11x10x16 and 11 is easy to multiply by in your head, so it’s really very simple to get to 1760.

    /s

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    It only seems ridiculous because you forgot some intermediates: 5.5 yards = 1 rod, 4 rods = 1 chain, 10 chain = 1 furlong, and 8 furlong = 1 mile. So just gotta remember 12, 3, 5.5, 4, 10, 8. Super simple.