Tip: NEVER use google translate for Japanese! (Even for travel) It’s so bad!
Never been to Japan, but here’s a meme describing my opinions on Japan after being an otaku for 10 years
My hovercraft is full of eels
Oh, yes, just down the road and take a left
Until you accidentally almost poison your team mate. (The latest Jetlag The Game season was fun)
There kind of are though? Most signs are in multiple languages (Japanese, English, Korean, and Chinese), and for the ones that aren’t, they usually have Romanji appended.
Plus, train stations, etc. Are very ample signage, and important information over the train intercom are in both Japanese and English (ie. “Now arriving at Ueno”). Also, train stations all have their own little jingles. So you can know where you are based on the song, when the train starts moving.
I know only a smattering of Japanese, but it was an incredibly easy country to get around in…
There was someone local in a state furry chat who kept talking about his Japan was the best, talked a lot of anime quotes, and no amount of people who know what Japan is actually like could convince him otherwise.
He’s apparently stuck there now and drinks most of the time because he didn’t and still doesn’t realize how goddamn racist his assumptions were and how it got him nowhere.
- he assumed everyone would like him cause he’s American and <insert nebulous reasons>
- he thought most people would speak English
- for some fucking reason he thought most of it was like Tokyo or specifically Akihabara(sp?)
So I’m cackling at this like how fucking appropriate
Any TRUE weeb will also know the negative aspects of Japan!
Paris-Syndrome, but Japan.
Reminds me so much of this meme about a big guy in a kimono.
I might’ve met him or at least someone similar, he wore a kimono to a bar and was disappointed that not every Japanese person asked him about it. He would try to use it as a conversation starter; eventually he drank himself into a stupor and passed out outside of the bar.
Maybe it’ll build character in him
Tasukete onii-chan!
Ah, the non-slop version of this meme. Nice work, thank you for your service.
I visited Japan in 2008, before Google Lens was a thing. My Japanese was rudimentary, like A-level. But I got by. I had a problem with my Suica card and the people in the subway station didn’t speak any English and my Japanese certainly wasn’t enough for the situation, but together we fixed it. And another time I wanted to ask something in a store and the woman had to fetch her coworker who spoke English, so that was fine as well. I would guess that today English is more wide-spread, particularly in Tokyo. So I wouldn’t be worried to visit today, when my Japanese is even worse than it was back then. I must say that trying to communicate with a language barrier, while frustrating, is also what brings us together as humans. Most people around the world are decent people and are willing to help somebody in need. That makes for nice vacation memories.
This is why travel develops character
Unless you are in the US. “speak ‘murican!!”
Naw, speak French. It’s way more fun.
At least watching people get upset is more fun.
Not sure about the French part tho.
I lived in Japan for 6 years. This is kind of true, but if you can point then you can get what you’re after.
I don’t know, I thought half the fun of Japan was the not knowing what I would stumble on.
Neil Degrasse Tyson said it best on why he hates algorithms, “they don’t let me find anything, they take away the wonder”.
The old point and grunt, it served me well when first arrived in Asia 20+ years ago. Greetings from Hanoi.
I would feel like I was annoying the fuck out of all the locals if I had to do that. Cannot imagine how stressful that would be.
Depends where you’re at. Tokyo they will mostly speak to you in Japanese, so i would attempt there. But I was in Okinawa for most of it, and most locals were good at English and used you to practice.
Helped many kids fulfill their school projects by letting them ask you questions on the street, in English lol.
It’s no different to seeing someone in your country who can’t speak. You both just figure it out together.
Such a powerful quote. I’ve heard the guy can be a jerk but he sure is inspiring.
Such a powerful quote. I’ve heard the guy can be a jerk but he sure is inspiring.
I’ve always found him to be a great source of wisdom. While also being a great example of how to not act.
The dude is a self centered egotistical ass who is so full of himself it’s disgusting.
He’s also an extremely well educated speaker who has a very deep understanding of many subjects and a fondness for teaching others.
Aka he’s human.
I definitely had a “what the fuck have I done” mini panic attack moment entering the Tokyo airport. But basic Japanese to keep manners got me by.
I visited Japan for the first time recently.
It is not the first time I visited a country that spoke another language, but it was the first time I went somewhere that didn’t use the same alphabet I’m used to.
I must say, suddenly beign functionally analphabet is a very strange feeling!
I’m from Bulgaria, but left as a child, when I came back I couldn’t speak the language, only understand a little bit. The crylic alphabet everywhere was really strange for me too. Ultimately, my step mom would walk the city with me and teach me the letters as we saw them on car licence plates. It was like a whole new world opened up when I could read them.
Fun fact, Japanese doesn’t use any alphabet at all!
Hiragana is a kind of alphabet imo. It maps a single character to a single sound.
Inb4 we argue about what counts as a “single sound”.
Syllabaries ftw
I’m flying to Japan this Friday. My first time… Dear lord, what have I gotten myself into
It’s gonna be alright.
Ignore the louts trying to get you into bars or clubs.
Japan has amazing food and drinks, including prepackaged items. Give it a shot.
Google maps is very reliable, including timings of public transport.
Buy knick knacks from museum gift shops.
An important phrase that sometimes gets left out of the courtesy phrase list is “sumimasen”. This means excuse me or sorry. Use it when you need to ask for assistance.
Here is a short video of phrases
Get a data e-sim so you have access to a translator app. Fast internet, fast trains, good food, and vending machines that have beer. Be patient. Be aware that there are very few public garbage bins so arrange your waste accordingly.
Microsoft translator works great and you can download the libraries to work locally. Google is great for menus and things with pictures and text. Everyone is patient and use the same apps to talk to their phones and show text.
You will make it, put the effort get the reward enjoy Japan.
Google translate/lens was absolutely goated for my japan travels. I really dislike google and try foss alternatives all the time but it was like having real life subtitles, good quality and adequate translations.
Yep, this. Even some hotel staff start their own Google translate up.
Yeah, the translation is better than trying to deal with a shopkeeper who doesn’t want to yukkuri the fuck hanashite kudasai or whatever. I have a vocabulary of maybe 800 words but whatever you’re speaking is way outside it.
I tried to pre-learn some phrases but that was absolutely useless as soon as someone said anything back to me. The restaurants I ate at either had a set menu I’d reserved ahead of time or a touch screen menu but I ate a bunch of convenience store egg salad sandwiches. In the two weeks I spent there, I had two conversations facilitated by google translate: the Japanese person would speak into her phone and show me the screen and I would say yes or no. I thought I’d have to be asking “how much is this” or saying “one of this please” when in reality I would just look at price tags and grab however many I wanted of something and bring it up to be purchased in a cashless transaction. “Excuse me/sorry” got a lot of use but I spent large chunks of my days without saying anything to anyone. All guided tours were led in English. There’s lots of verticality in Tokyo and you can kinda get an idea of what’s going on in those upper floors but going downstairs seemed like an adventure. Google Maps was awesome and could walk your ass door-to-door including subway stops. I know I walked past all sorts of cool stuff but I had plenty of cool stuff on my list to see.
Sumimasen
Gotta get the dub then
What would you recommend instead of Google lens/translate?
DeepL
If you’re interested in learning the language, but don’t have 3 years to prepare:
Jisho.org is an online English-Japanese dictionary that helps you find words by selecting radicals from a chart. You can learn to break down 99% of common kanji into their radicals within a week and then it’s a matter of selecting 2 or 3 radicals in the chart and matching the picture. Finding all the kanji in a sentence (or more likely, the three kanji on a menu item) should give you a decent idea of the full meaning. Now you point at the menu, say the standard question from your phrase book, give a polite nod, hold out your money at the appropriate time, and you’re nihongo jouzu.
Edit: I would only recommend this method if we’re not using Google Lens. Lens is way faster and you can still decipher the menu with your dictionary after your food arrived.
Not the most ethical answer but a paid chatgpt subscription.
Even a medium sized local model can do 90% of the job now.
Just gotta set it up ahead of time so you can use it outside the house.
I travel a lot so I’m not sure I’d want to have a server running at home. Or do you mean I set it up in my hotel?
While i ment at home. Im going to be honest giving it a few moments thought. Since your already traveling you likely have a laptop. A ryzen laptop while expensive. Arn’t really that much more then a good work station/gaming laptop both are fucking over priced as fucking hell right now to be fair. But your paying 3.5-4k either way. A ryzen laptop with lpddr is like 3800-4000 dollars for 128 gigs of ram. You could totally do a local model right from your hotel room.
Frankly i would say this is a more realistic option after the bubble goes pop and you can pick up something like this for like 2000 bucks. Since the laptops tend to be really nice reguardless and at least justifiable around that price point.
