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Jokes aside, as an American, I wish the US had lost the revolutionary war. Commonwealth territories ended up with socialized healthcare, a far better democracy, and far better labor rights, while the US ended up with fascist oligarchy. No thanks. I’d gladly trade my coffee for tea if it means I get a real democracy instead of a fascist oligarchy
Tbf some of those former territories aren’t in very good socioeconomic shape. If we’d ended up like Canada that would have been winning the lottery, but plenty of those other former colonies have plenty of problems like classist India.
Also, Africa.
Africa (and the various tribes and countries) has been fucked over by various European countries for centuries. Can’t lay this one solely on the English.
hey, you broke it, you bought it. Now, maybe they should be doing something to fix this whole problem in the ex-British Mandate of Palestine they cause
UK man arrested for wearing plasticine t shirt
… Maybe not
I’m black and most British territories didn’t outlaw slavery until the next centruy so no thanks…
Agreed, it wasn’t soon enough, but they did abolish it thirty years before the US fought a war to get it done.
To be blunt, I can’t think of a better reason to go to war than to eliminate slavers and those that would regard an entire race of people as not worthy of respect.
The only other good reason for war is for defense. To protect yourself and your countrymen from a hostile force, but I digress.
That shit should have never been allowed. But here we are.
But here we are.
… Still dealing with the consequences because we went easy on them.
As an American, I wish they won.
They outlawed slavery looong before we did.
Because they were ahead on industry and slavery was less profitable. Don’t think England was going around thinking it was wrong.
It was a very popular civil movement and governments were essentially forced to act.
the petition in 1814 got 1,375,000 signatures.
Is this true? Or am I getting woooooshed?
In 1972, 400,000 british people (of 6 million at the time) gave up sugar to boycott slavery. Seventy years later, mill workers of Manchester supported embargo of Confederacy during US civil war by refusing to handle cotton picked by enslaved people. This came at a hefty personal cost as their way of making living depended on it. Abraham Lincoln later acknowledged this show of support. There’s statue of him in Manchester.
The British abolishment movement was so popular that they had more signatures demanding the end of slavery than the total amount of votes in the last election. Later, at it’s peak, something like 25% of the entire British naval budget went towards capturing and freeing slave ships.
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Could you imagine the teeth of an English methhead?
I’m so glad England isn’t real.
Oh it’s real and no matter where you live the English have probably pillaged it for spices they never use.
Don’t the British have better teeth than the US Americans?
I’ve not researched this, but I’ve heard it’s because mouth health is prioritised over aesthetics.
That basically means: no whitening.
Teeth are naturally yellowish
also, dentistry is more accessible in the UK; free treatment is available to a bigger chunk of the population, and private dental care is cheaper as well.
So, in terms of severe complications stemming from lack of dental care, the US is worse, but the obsession with straightening & whitening means that people who have got it together enough to appear in the media generally have superficially nicer teeth.
It’s like most things in America - if you’re doing ok then it’s great, and if you’re not then the rest of the country just pretends you don’t exist.
It’s like most things in America - if you’re doing ok then it’s great, and if you’re not then the rest of the country just pretends you don’t exist.
That truly is the US in a nutshell. The US is fantastic if you are in the top 20% (and you have zero empathy for people you don’t know), otherwise this country sucks.
“Say, how is it that we got socialized medicine but me teeth still look like this?”
Socialised healthcare means they work and you aren’t left in pain. If you want them to look pretty go and fork out for private treatment.
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I’ve heard that myth before, never see any evidence in favor of it, not that I can be arsed to look.
What myth?
UK gets free dental care through the NHS. Just not aesthetics.
Not a myth and don’t speak as an authority on something you’ve never researched.
These days, as a British subject, you’d be smoking crack in a hoody and knockoff Burberry cap, bruv.
laaaame. you used to be a real country. bring back the leaded face paint
Sorry, if im smoking crack I strip down to my undies and cover my self in butter. That’s just the way it is.
With the price of butter these days I think I would use rapeseed oil instead. Much cheaper to cover myself in.
That might be ok for you but I have standards.
Ok so here’s the thing: If America lost the war, America would likely be akin to Australia. The UK used it’s North American colonies like they did Australia (that is, a place to transport convicts) so you’d basically be like Australia in that regard. You’d likely be like…cold weather Aussies.
Also:
- Australia would be…different? Maybe Dutch?
- We might not have had a French Revolution, or it may have been different, because a lot of the ideas from the American Revolution inspired the French Revolution.
- Since the French Revolution have rise to the idea of the modern nation state and Napoleon, we’d not have a lot of countries.
cold weather Aussies.
looks at Canadians
Huh.
looks at Canadians
you mean i could have socialized healthcare, weed, and california weather? FUCK YOU BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH YOU SHOULD HAVE TRAITORED HARDER
a lot of the ideas from the American Revolution inspired the French Revolution.
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Since the French Revolution have rise to the idea of the modern nation state and Napoleon, we’d not have a lot of countries.At first I was like: wtf? Then I remembered we’re in the shitposting community
I mean, am I wrong? France bankrupted itself in the war and in funding the American revolution. The American Revolution produced and popularised a lot of ideas that found their way to France and inspired ideas in the French Revolution (as well as a rebellion in Scotland but let’s not get ahead of ourselves).
The French Revolution gave rise to the idea of the Modern Nation State and Napoleon’s invasions of places like Italy and Germany implanted this idea in those places which eventually lead to the Nationalist revolutions in Germany and Italy in the 19th century.
If the American revolution failed, we’d might not have the French Revolution we know of today. If that is the case, there’s no rise of the Nation State and no Napoleon to spread it, ergo, no Germany or Italy, as well as a lot of other countries.
This isn’t really my area, but afaik…
- the French bankrupted themselves for a number of reasons, one of which was indeed the global Ango-French War (which resulted in the creation of the USA) and the earlier Seven Years War. This wasn’t the only cause of the French Revolution.
- the American and French Revolutions were both products of “the Englightenment” which took part in Europe. To their credit, several of the American leaders saw the value in it and adopted those ideas, but America was pretty much a backwater at that time. Of course American independence was a topic of discussion, much in the same way that the war in Ukraine is today. No doubt some people were “inspired by” the distant foreign war, as an example of ideas that had developed locally.
- I think the 1648 treaties of Westphalia are generally considered the beginning of modern nation states. I think it’d be tough to argue that German and Italian nationalism were “implanted” by the French Revolution.
I had a brilliant concluding paragraph but I accidentally deleted it. Something about how this period of history has many relevant lessons about balancing domestic vs international policy, updating antiquated systems of economic and representation systems, and the interplay between popular movements and individual leaders. But this is, after all, a shitposting community, so no great loss.
