Turns out, all the words on all the paper of the world doesnt mean shit when you’ve got a monopoly on violence.
It isn’t legal, and the Constitution expliclty forbids this.
Welcome to fascism, did you think for some reason … words written on paper would… restrain them or matter in anyway?
They are fascists.
Their whole thing is … truth doesn’t exist, language is a weapon, not a means of reaching a mutual understanding.
They only understand one thing, and that is violent force, and the physical and societal logistics that make it possible.
If your game plan for resisting fascists is ‘but that’s illegal!’, you’ve already lost.
what is the right game plan?
It’s an ideology that has proven to resort to violence and genocide rather than admit fault, let alone wrongdoing.
Laws only work if there is a penalty for breaking them. Example: it is against the law not to release the Epstien files … but what is the penalty for breaking that law? Nothing was written in. The same for ICE, no one is checking them and they are staying out of Castle Law states.
It’s against the Constitution for insurrectionists to hold federal office. Yet here we are.
The rule of law has ceased to exist in the US. It has been replaced by the rule of power.
You either get used to no longer have rights, or you can start to get them back.
Yup.
Those of us with functional brains kept telling everyone else without that it can and will happen here. They didn’t think so.
Now it’s happening here.
It’s a slow boil, so people will keep denying. But hey, women don’t have the same rights they had a few years ago. Now due process is gone. What’s next?
Now to be precise those women’s rights were taken away legally as they were not codified anywhere in a lasting manner.
Well yeah.
A lot of what the Nazis did was legal, too.
Particularly at the beginning when they started passing laws to persecute Jews and other minorities. All done legally.
Like when the U.S. didn’t let women or blacks vote or own land. All legal.
it is very much unconstitutional and definitely illegal. but you would need a functioning congress and a supreme court to rule on it or whatever
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception
We have ceded civil liberties when within 100 miles of a boarder, this happened decades ago and most politicians were ok with it because it didn’t make the news… just a quiet tool in the toolbox…
Well, the tool is now being used
Don’t airports count as borders as well?
technically, no, but airport security workers of all flavors can refer individuals to ICE if they deem it necessary
I thought that it was specifically international airports. I heard they were doing ICE raids in the town outside of Pittsburgh International Airport (Robinson, PA). I haven’t seen any ICE personally in PGH but I’ve hear coworkers and friends talk about it.
Hey neighbor! They’re down here in wheeling, wv also. Wheeling sorta has an airport, but its for small, private planes only, I believe. Stay safe…
True but this current development is even worse, as you may see that Minneapolis isn’t in that zone.
Issue is, this isn’t boarder patrol, this is immigration control. But international airports count as the 100 miles radius as well. And things like inland ports. So this map is incorrect on enforcement for this as well.
From my understanding no the border rule stops at customs.
Yes and we have customs at international airports we also have customs at inland ports we have customs at anywhere that rail receives and rail yards distribute.
Yes but the 100 mile rule does not apply to air ports. The exception stops at the point of entry and domestic flights are exempt from the border exceptions because people do not go through customs.
§ 287.1 Definitions. (a)
(1) External boundary. The term external boundary, as used in section 287(a)(3) of the Act, means the land boundaries and the territorial sea of the United States extending 12 nautical miles from the baselines of the United States determined in accordance with international law.
(2) Reasonable distance. The term reasonable distance, as used in section 287(a) (3) of the Act, means within 100 air miles from any external boundary of the United States or any shorter distance which may be fixed by the chief patrol agent for CBP, or the special agent in charge for ICE, or, so far as the power to board and search aircraft is concerned any distance fixed pursuant to paragraph (b) of this section.
You guys haven’t really had rights for a while, by the sounds of it.
Black people been saying. everyone else just refuses to listen
(except for native americans, they been saying it the longest, they just don’t have the presence of messaging because they’ve been pushed so far into the margins)
Yeah I’m Aussie, and as soon as I learned about the Philly police firebombing a black neighbourhood, I knew you guys were supremely fucked.
And yeah Native Americans called it. I’ve learned that how a government and society treats a minority, is how they can eventually treat everyone. Or put another way, any rights you think you have over the member of society with the least rights is illusory.
yup. a society is only as just as it treats its most marginalized member. everyone else is just on a waiting list
Naw but we got Mountain Dew buckets, cheeseburgers, and AR-15s in high school! Wooohooo!!! Thank Jesus I’m not a pinko Commie!!!
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Laws only work one way now.
Ah, the classic, “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” -Francis M. Wilhoit
It doesn’t matter whether it’s illegal. If you don’t have rule of law, which is the reality that MAGA has us living in, then all that matters is if you can get away with it. If you can’t or won’t be held to account, then there is no law
The main question is how legal would it be to shoot at masked armed gang breaking into your home to kidnap you and your family without any judicial warrant.
Because that is exactly what the 2nd amendment is for
“Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6”
I mean FFS, at this point ICE might kill you just for fun.
Immigration proceedings aren’t before a full court with a jury. It’s an administrative proceeding. So, there isn’t even the 12.
I’m pretty sure the trial involving the self defense against armed masked gangs would not be an immigration court.
If they don’t respect the 4th amendment they get the second amendment
The law only exists so far as it is enforced. Who will enforce the law against the state? Political power grows out the barrel of a gun.
Wow look at those big bois. I bet they go home, scream at their kids, then beat their wife and dog.
Kick the wife and fuck the dog.
You’re forgetting the “Nobody is going to stop me” exemption. The constitution is just a piece of paper if nobody is willing to defend it.
If someone was in the process of actively murdering me, I would think it safe to assume they are aware that murder is illegal. If I tell them it’s illegal, they’re probably more likely to double down and make sure I’m dead so that I can’t be a witness.
