• Pratai@piefed.ca
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    2 minutes ago

    It’s totally fine though. Since no one in America has the balls to do anything about it- it’s legal.

  • Kaligalis@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Of course they hacked voting machines to audit their security. Apart from that, voting machines can’t fulfill the transparency requirements of democratic elections on principle. So just not using them would be better anyway.

  • Jason2357@lemmy.ca
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    4 hours ago

    As much as I would want to cry foul, this sound like a typical red team exercise.

  • Havatra@lemmy.zip
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    7 hours ago

    Voting machines are vulnerable just like any other machine, and have been proven time and time again that they’re not particularly difficult to hack. DEF CON has been doing it for almost ten years at this point. First time in 2017, with lots of articles covering it. The year after even TIME reported about how an 11 year old did it. In 2024 they got some attention again due to Trump going for second term. But I don’t think much came of it…

    The US is a flawed democracy, and has been on a steady decline for years.

    • Redfugee@lemmy.world
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      5 hours ago

      I worry that comments like this can degrade the confidence in the system.

      States run their own elections and they’re usually administered at the county level. I can’t speak for any other county but the way we do elections here are legit. This system is audited and administered by bipartisan teams. During elections I work with people from different parties and facilitate a system to ensure our voting process maintains integrity.

      If you don’t know how elections are administered where you live I encourage you to take an interest and get involved. We all have a duty here to oversee that we are administering elections with integrity.

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        The system is made up of many components, and voting machines are but one part. Even though they might be hackable in various ways, there are much more efficient ways these days to sway an election. The Cambridge Analytics scandal proved one efficient way, while there’s now a growing belief that whoever controls the social media algorithm effectively controls public opinion.
        And don’t get me started on the two-party-system in the US…

        So no need to hack the machines, really. The system is flawed/corrupt elsewhere more severely.

      • story@lemmy.zip
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        I’m sorry to say this to you. It wasn’t difficult to make a voting machine in 2011. What we have are fraud machines. It’s just politically impossible to make a secure voting machine, even though it’s technically trivial.

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          Most democracies do not use voting machines because it’s impossible to trust anyone with creating and maintaining it.

          If there is a way to change the vote tallies, then clever people will use it to enrich themselves.

          The only way to circumvent most cheating is by paper ballots recounted manually in front of representatives of all candidates: recounted as many times as asked; and the ballots must be kept in public view until a winner is declared.

          Putting the ballots into any other device negates some or all of the above.

          And I would only have to say this in American political posts. But Americans are married to voting in ways that cannot be verified, except in some states. So most likely what’s seen as common sense in most of the world is either ignored or viewed with suspicion here.

          Ask any student in the uk though; and I’m just echoing what has been taught in school to young children

  • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    The first stone has fallen out of the wall. I hope it leads to more. If you look at the various numerical anomalies that occurred in swing states only, it becomes very plausible that Harris actually won.

    • Mail-in votes closely reflected polling, but election-night voting (i.e. on the machines) contradicted the polls.
    • Split-ticket voting occurred much more often than usual - in this case, ballots with a vote for Trump and votes for Democrats the rest of the way. This does happen in elections, but not nearly to the degree it happened in the swing states.
    • The anomalies were always enough for Trump to win, but just below the thresholds that would trigger automatic audits.
  • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today
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    7 hours ago

    Now why in the world would they want to do that? For educational purposes only, I presume. Fascists are famously pro-education.

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    11 hours ago

    Normally vulnerability testing would be a good thing, but in this case I think it’s safe to assume the worst motivations for it.

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    10 hours ago

    It’s the old projection thing again.

    Republicans: the Dems hacked voting machines and stole the election! Lock them up!

    Also Republicans: we hacked a voting machine so we can steal the election.

  • eicker@lemmy.worldOP
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    The administration wanted a voting machine hacked, but DOGE had already fired the experts capable of doing it. Apparently the one thing stopping a potential election conspiracy was Elon Musk’s ability to make government incompetent at absolutely everything. Task failed successfully.

  • switcheroo@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Early voters are reporting some hijinks when selecting their choice so be VERY CAREFUL about confirming who you are voting for.

    I know I am going to be checking in to make sure my vote was counted and counted for the people I want to win. You should to.